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Q&A with Bobby McConnell
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- Category: The Lenny Alba Variety Hour
- Created: Tuesday, 13 October 2026 15:50
- Published: Tuesday, 13 October 2026 15:50
- Written by Jeff Krol
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How did you first find this League?
It was through Cory Turner. I was playing in a men’s flag football league downtown and another coed league, so he would invite me to sub in as QB when I could fit in a third league on Saturdays and his QB couldn’t make it, so I played a few games for him in the league.
When did you originally join and with which team?
I officially joined full time in the Fall of 2013 for 1-2-3 Gawron in Division 2. We had an undefeated season but barely won the championship in OT that year against B. Ford was the QB and they had Cody Williams on their team who was a stud that played in the CFL. Eric Delecki was our best player at that time and was sidelined with a hamstring injury and they outplayed us and probably should have won, but they missed a 1 pt conversion which allowed us to take the game into Overtime and they scored 6 on their OT drive and we had a game winning TD pass by Lindsay Carrow to Cory Turner for the win and to move up to D1.
Which teams have you played with?
1-2-3 Gawron and Eyes Downtown, plus The Angels (a gender team in D4) for one session which we took home the ship over Buffalo Vice in a very close game. Taylor Pagano had two key catches on the last drive when we were losing, first catching a deep pass to get us most of the way down the field then catching the game winner on 5 and 0 with about 50 seconds to go. We then had to defend a Hail Mary heave to Mark Brown to preserve the win. I also played on Grey Hair Don’t Care with my good friend Dave Eickhoff and now BQI with the current greatest female quarterback of all time Bridget Masiello. All the credit to Jon Tirado for having the idea to put this team together with Bridget as QB!
You've won as many championships as anyone in this League. Which one (or ones) were the most important or fulfilling for you?
The next one is the most fulfilling! It’s always to me about doing everything you can for your team to win that session and enjoying the championship until the next session then go after the Next One! I can remember every D1 championship win and loss and who we played and details surrounding the championship games so the memories for me I will always have and cherish the hard work that came with those championships during the games by myself and my teammates and I will always after the championship win bask in satisfaction of all of the hard work I put into my body throughout each week leading up to the games and feel in those moments the sacrifice was worth it and feel accomplished that my training plan had worked.
For the championship game wins:
1-2-3 Gawron over Varsity Blues
1-2-3 Gawron over Varsity Villians
Eyes Downtown over Marketing Mayors
Eyes Downtown over Legends
Eyes Downtown over Sticky Bandits
For the championship game losses
Marketing Mayors Over Eyes Downtown
Public Enemy Over Eyes Downtown. [That is the only I feel we were robbed of. I detailed this on one of the podcasts. 5 and 1 from the 2 yard line I threw a pass to a wide open Matt Mohr (literally no one was even close to him) that I could have thrown with the tip of my d_ck and on a snowy day in November. Rameer said he was standing out of bounds when no one was near him I could have thrown it underhand and he was clearly in bounds that would have put us up 11 with 5 and a half minutes to go and the game would have been over and instead it was a turnover on downs. Garrett Bessing was standing right there and not reffing and has said to me it was definitely in bounds. I personally think to this day Rameer who was the third ref on the game and was best friends with Lenny Alba who ran Public Enemy and was tight with the Public Enemy players as well just wanted to see a climatic ending and that’s why he made that call. I will say though that game I believe contributed to me receiving one of the coolest things and biggest conversation starters at my house to this day. I will never know for sure but I’m confident Rameer told Lenny what he did for him on that call to make the game climatic and to give them a chance to win so when I showed up at the banquet that year there was three giant lifesize cardboard cutouts of me there which was really cool. There was other people that had cardboard cutouts, but interestingly enough and suspiciously enough I was the only one they made coasters with my face on them and the interview podium had a giant super thick posterboard stand in front of it also with just my face on it as well lol. I have all three of those items the cardboard cutout, coasters and thick posterboard picture of myself that was on the interview stand at my house today which I am really grateful for Lenny who was a really generous man financially with the league to have spent the money to get all these cool things and to let me take them home, so yes I do think all these things were done because Rameer had told him what he had did but bottom-line Lenny didn’t have to do all of that so thank you Lenny for the amazing gifts and generosity to our league and we miss you Lenny!]
Public Enemy over Eyes Downtown
Legends over Eyes Downtown
Legends over Eyes Downtown
Do you have a favorite game / moment / win (other than a championship) in all the years you've been playing?
An all-time classic win if I had to pick one that sticks out in my mind was semifinal 2018 overtime win vs Public Enemy. I made a crucial strategic mistake which I won’t get into (no, not an interception) that left the door open for them to tie and possibly beat us on the last drive. They drove down and scored to tie it with little to no time left and missed the extra point and we went to OT. In OT they scored 6 points and then we had our drive. We were down to our last play from inside the 5 and Greg Chadwick caught the game tying touchdown. Then on the conversion Cody Stumpf made an awesome catch in the left corner of the end zone when I was scrambling while being given an NFL level tackle by one of their players and he held on still for the win. If you don’t believe me about the NFL tackle, I still have the video of the play on my phone lol. That was a favorite memory of a game I had until our most recent championship win overcoming two excellent teams in the Legends and the Sticky Bandits. That meant so much to me because at age 44 I still believed I could play the best ball I ever had played in my life regardless of my age and was striving for that but wasn’t sure if that was possible but WE as a team made that happen offensively on that day together! When my whole team left and it was just Blasé LaDuca and I remaining in Spring 2025 it took us three sessions to get back to the mountaintop with some dynamite male players surrounding us Drew Butler, Josh Schultz, Nick Voss, Ben Stack. Two of the females on that team (Bridget Masiello and Lexi Kalinowski) who were playing D4 literally three sessions ago were our workhorses and the three of us had trained together a lot of time to try and get their game up to speed to make the jump from D4 to D1 and to see it all come together from having almost literally no one left on the team besides Blasé and I to being the best out of 48 teams was an incredible feeling. So I know if you're reading this and think I am not being consistent in my answer of which championship was your most satisfying from a previous question above that is fair but the truth is they all are very special to me and hold a place of joy in my heart so I stand by my favorite championship will be the “Next One” until i’m done playing then maybe after time has faded we will see which memories still stand out the most in my mind and I reminisce the most about and then I will definitively know which championship is my genuine favorite.
Who's your favorite teammate or teammates you've had over the years?
For the players I no longer play with it was Jeff Farr. He would remind me how many times I threw the ball to him during a day of men’s flag and coed all on a Saturday and how many he caught and the percentage would usually be like holy crap did we really have that high of a percentage for targets to catch ratio. My favorite teammate now could change because it will depend I’m sure by how long we play together when it’s all said and done and how great of an on field qb to receiver connection we have and them thinking in sync with me in how our minds view strategy or them teaching me better ways to do it with an unshakeable will to be the best player they possibly could be and the most important attribute they have is an ultra-competitiveness to want to win championships with a team mindset would be my criteria for my picking my favorite teammate when I’m done playing. As of now my favorite teammate is Bridget Masiello even though like I said when it’s all said and done I have a lot of good candidates who it could be in Drew Butler, Josh Schultz, Nick Voss, Blasé LaDuca and Charles Emdin. I choose Bridget at this moment she was an average D4 player who now I believe is the most effective female player in the entire league. I pick her because no one of any teammates I have ever had counting men’s flag and coed football has put the time, effort and brain power in with me to cultivate ways to be best player they could be and just be relentless in the pursuit of greatness. People talk the talk about wanting to be the best but they don’t all put in the hard work that it takes to get there and she exemplifies the definition of someone who Is relentless. I have played a lot longer than her but I learn from her a lot in her strategic ideas very often. These are all the reasons as to why she is currently my favorite teammate!
Who's your biggest rival been, either friendly or not so friendly?
Public Enemy and Legends and it has not been friendly.
Is there any person you've always wanted to play with but never got the chance? Any team you would have loved to play with but didn't?
There was one player who I always wanted to play with. I would watch her play and just be blown away at her athletic ability, hands, route running, catching ability and team not me first attitude and it was Katie Salisbury. When I got the opportunity to play with her I found like we had a bond in that we were players that had accomplished a lot of things but still wanted to train and get better like we were a novice. I still absolutely love and respect that about her to this day and that is why Katie Salisbury is the greatest female player in any of these coed leagues of all time as of right now. Her longevity as well, people have come and gone and she is still such a dominate force as a player in this league at whatever current age she is.
There has never been a team I’ve seen at Toppers where I thought to myself, I want to be on that team. My mindset has always been how can I make my team the best it could possibly be on the field so my focus is always on my team and not thinking or wanting to play on anyone else’s team.
Fill in the blank: Bobby McConnell is the ____th best TSL QB of all time
When it’s all said and done, I hope to have the most championships In D1 by any quarterback of all time and if that can be accomplished then the most D1 championships by any player. Then people can talk about my rank if they’d like to of who is the greatest of all time but I will know no matter what their opinion is Championships aren’t a debate they are an achievement that can’t be debated and that’s what I’m focused on. That being said the greatest quarterbacks I have ever played against are Chris Cole, Joey Batts and Doug from the Moose Knuckle.
Who's the best non QB player you've ever seen in all your years in the TSL, male and female?
Males: my list would be Sean Weisansel and Andrew Smith. I know there are males on my team when it’s all said and done who could be the best to ever do it in these leagues but for now my answer is based on their current body of work and I tip my hat to both of those guys. Best Female is: Katie Salisbury, runner up Cheryl Julicher.
What is a fact about you that you that the average TSLer wouldn't know?
That I am really easy going off the field and just want to have the best time laughing and goofing around when I am not playing a competitive sport. I don’t drink or do drugs could be a good fact for people to know as well. Alcohol use to touch my lips about four days a year I count even one sip as a day of drinking and now it is zero days a year I drink and I have never done a drug.
How many more years do you think you have in those old bones?
When I was 38 I would think if I could stay at my peak until 43 that would be amazing but I knew it was going to take an awful lot of hard work on my body to be able to do so. Now I’m 44 and feel at the top of my game so my new goal is to be 49 and still at the top of my game. I know its going to be a lot of hard work and sacrifice but my current mindset is I would like to try to do that, but I know life circumstances and drive can always change so we will see!
If you could change anything about the League, what would it be?
The rush count. A level playing field does not happen each and every Saturday because of this important aspect of the game of rushing the quarterback. Whatever number you decide 4 or 5 seconds should be counted by the ref so it’s consistent for both teams and gives everyone the best possible level playing field and fairness.
Who is on the Mount Rushmore of Eyes Downtown players? (Excluding yourself)
Well, I had to google it but I now know Mount Rushmore has four faces so this is a really difficult question but I will attempt to answer it. Jeff Farr’s bust would be on the Mount Rushmore. Like I mentioned earlier in this article you would throw this man the ball and he always would come up with it, so smart as a receiver the way he played and that skill and smarts contributed to him dominating the game defensively as well, he was an unstoppable force on our team. Number 2 on the Mount Rushmore would be Eric Delecki. His speed and explosiveness was always just so impressive to watch. If you didn’t play far off of him you were not stopping him on a deep ball and he would be all over the receiver in man to man defense like glue mirroring their image like maybe no other I have ever seen play men’s flag and coed football. Number 3 would be Drew Butler. In my 20 some years playing men’s flag football and Id say roughly 15 years playing coed football he is one of one when it comes to elusiveness and the ability to make breathtaking catches that your like holy shit no one else would make those catches I have ever seen. Maybe its too early to put him on the Eyes Downtown Mount Rushmore because it will depend on how many years he plays on the squad and how successful we are with championships as a team and how dominating he is on both sides of the ball but I truly believe his will to be the best and love for playing and still having room to grow intellectually as a player will give him that longevity of dominance! Number four was the toughest call of them all I want it to be a female and it is between Beth Schroeder and Bridget Masiello but for now I am going to go with Beth Schroeder. Beth had top end speed, really good hands, a really good man to man defender who would do whatever it took to win so much to her detriment that she got kicked out of the league lol. We didn’t win Topper championships for years without her, she was the dominant glue that raised our female level of play to win many championships in the Topper league but multiple Game-On D1 championships and tournament wins as well! That all being said if Bridget Masiello takes care of her body and has longevity with our team having a high level of dominance personally and with championships for years to come then it won’t even be a discussion of her replacing Beth on the Eyes Downtown Mount Rushmore, with all the hard work she puts in on the game more than anyone I believe, her technical attention to detail and really high football IQ and continued want to still improve it will be a blowout if she has longevity!
When it’s all said and done I really hope selfishly that Mount Rushmore has three out of those four names changed with Jeff Farr, Eric Delecki and Beth Schroeder off of it because that would mean players like Nick Voss, Josh Schultz, Charles Emdin and Bridget Masiello had longevity, dominance and multiple championships with our team where they undeniably unseat the existing names on the Eyes Downtown Mount Rushmore and go down as legends of the league, also helping me achieve all of my goals in the league as well because I know without their will to win, effort, consistently giving their blood, sweat and tears out there I am nothing without them!
Any other final thoughts you want to share?
Thank you to Patrick Topper McGovern, Lenny Alba and Jeff Krol for running this awesome league for as many years as you have. I appreciate and appreciated all your hard work and efforts to make this the best league of any kind in Western New York!
POETRY HOUR w/ TINO
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- Category: The Lenny Alba Variety Hour
- Created: Tuesday, 06 October 2026 17:40
- Published: Tuesday, 06 October 2026 17:40
- Written by Jeff Krol
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An untitled poem from the TSL's own Tino Tomasello:
Through shadows not seen but only felt, light permeates beyond the physical realm
An emanation of aura occurs as self-recognition brings a soul to find form
Bonded with Spirit in the tides of reality, the soul finds a current of life
Its whisper sounds louder than a trumpet's blast; breaking the echoes of silence
The Crumb Chronicles - The Mouse Vol. III
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- Category: The Lenny Alba Variety Hour
- Created: Wednesday, 23 September 2026 18:32
- Published: Wednesday, 23 September 2026 18:32
- Written by Jeff Krol
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The Fat Cats of the TSL Media Corporation are trying to trap the Mouse. They want him writing propaganda. Their propaganda. Stories that fit their narrative, keep the Clowder satiated, and keep everyone from asking too many questions. Don’t think. Don’t dig. Don’t sharpen your claws. Just eat the cheese they put in front of you and move along.
This Mouse refuses to be bought with cheese from the cottage.
While the Fat Cats sit comfortably in their lawn chairs, deciding which stories you’re allowed to hear, the Mouse is still scurrying around the field and listening to conversations that were never meant to reach the public.
The truth may stink, but that doesn’t make it Limburger.
Team Name: Bullet Club
Bullet Club came into existence in 2015, emerged from the mouse hole of Sweet and Sour Inc. when a handful of players decided it was time to scurry and start something new. More than a decade later, most of those original names have scattered across the TSL universe. Jeff Easton can now be found quarterbacking Pit Harade, Jess McAndrew suited up for Birds of War last season, and near-original Chad Griffin has resurfaced down in D6. Through all the roster changes, Joe K remains the last man standing, a survivor of every version of the team that has existed since 2015.
The highest point came in Spring 2018, when Bullet Club climbed to the top of D3 and walked away as champions. Getting back to those heights, however, has been anything but a straight line. The years between the original Bullet Club and the version roaming the fields today included QB problems, attendance problems, and former players who couldn't fully commit to the team. Then there were the many many playoff heartbreaks, the games where one play, one bounce, or one bad ref caused the season to be over. And, of course, there was the day they signed John Langley. Rock bottom comes in many forms.
The Quarterback lineage reads like an ACME magazine, Jeff Easton, Scotty Drosendahl, Travis Cleavenger Bernal, John Langley, Dylan Jaloza, and Jordan Lawson have all taken their turns setting the trap, with Easton even returning for multiple tours of duty. Through all those different eras, Bullet Club has also been fortunate enough to have some consistency and some kind personalities on the female side. Steph Czaja and the newly married, but injured Ashley DeVantier have seemingly been around forever. Kelsey Harrigan joined a few seasons ago and quickly became a superstar. Haley Kirstis was the newest addition last season and she's already looking like Bullet Club found another keeper.
They enjoy playing against Practice Squad, Sticky Nation, and any Keller Team, but the upgrade to D2 felt like a start of a new era as they no longer play familiar opponents and now play against 4 really good teams, and Let’s Get Reccked. Any team can win D2. Bullet Clubs knows they are lucky to start so hot in D2, but could just as easily be 0-4. They know they can never take a week off or could lose. It’s been a great experience for BC.
Team Name: Flying Balls
Some teams give Mickey a decade of history to dig through. This team is a little different. Founded in Fall 2025 by captain Dan Diehl, they are still relatively new to the TSL. They started their journey in D6, but did not stay there very long. After putting together a strong group and proving they belonged, they made the jump to D4 which is a pretty significant climb.
At quarterback, they have Matt Glowacki. The previous quarterback to the now defunct “Unit Ha Ha.” At backup quarterback is Jonah Seler who loves to run the offense. Both QB’s a new collection of weapons around them, and there does not appear to be one glaring weakness to point toward. They are simply a good group of guys who came together, love football, and have figured out how to play well with one another. Sometimes the recipe really is that simple.
The philosophy around the team can probably be summed up in two words: everyone eats. There is not one player demanding all the touches. They spread the ball around, find the open player, and let everybody contribute. Injuries have caused some problems along the way, but when the whole group is together, they have shown exactly why a team they should be competing in D4.
The Mouse also went searching for a bitter rival and came back empty handed. Apparently they have not been around long enough to truly hate anybody yet. Give it time.
Team Name: Blue Ballers
Blue Ballers have only been around for about three years, but the team has already lived a couple of different lives. Before the Blue they were Purple. As in the Purple Nurples, who lasted for two years before their evolution. Captained by PJ Maiarana and quarterbacked by Phil M, the pair have led the Blue to a pair of championships in D6 and D5. Not bad for a team whose roster sometimes feels like it was assembled at the bar five minutes before kickoff.
Their first taste of glory came in Fall, when they captured the D6 championship against the Chargers. The path through the walls was not always pretty. Their first season featured one of their lowest moments when they found themselves playing shorthanded and without a quarterback. After looking at the crumbs, they said to do one thing “blame Owen.” Fortunately, things have improved since then, and somewhere along the way this group went from trying to find enough people to play to collecting trophies.
Perhaps the best example of what Blue Ballers can do came against the Irish Giants. They found themselves staring at a 30 point deficit, the type of hole that usually has teams thinking of never playing again. Instead, this team squeaked back.
This season, they have to survive without QB Phil for five weeks. The official explanation provided was that he has “kids,” the word all captains hate to hear. Whether they can keep things together until their quarterback returns remains to be seen, but history suggests chaos does not bother this group very much.
The Crumb Chronicles - The Mouse Vol. IV
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- Created: Thursday, 01 October 2026 18:31
- Published: Thursday, 01 October 2026 18:31
- Written by Jeff Krol
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Speedy Gonzales was already the fastest mouse in Mexico when he became the first mouse reporter at the 1986 World Cup. With a tiny notebook tucked under his arm, he raced between stadiums, chased every rumor, and filed his stories before the other reporters found their seats. He could get a quote from anyone and disappear before they thought to ask who sent him. Speedy is this reporter’s hero and inspiration.
Coochie Monsters: A Family Recipe
Some teams arrive with a new roster and a fresh set of jerseys. The Coochie Monsters have been around long enough to recognize half the league before the first game starts. Captain Meg, who has earned most beloved female a record amount of times, leads a group with years of TSL history, including familiar faces from PWI and the Untouchaballs.
Greg, Cookie, Helm, Ryan, Derek and Robert Lee are among the old timers. They have played together, played against each other, and probably heard every joke the league has to offer. The Coochie Monsters their alternate quarterbacks, which gives opposing defenses a different look depending on who takes the snap. They have been seen changing quarterbacks in the middle of a drive.
Nina and Meg are joined by various wives of the team, making this roster feel as much like a gathering of people who know one another as a football team. That kind of familiarity takes years to build. It also means nobody gets away with claiming they were open when everyone saw the play.
The Coochie Monsters have changed names and teammates along the way, but this group keeps finding its way back to the field. There’s always room for one more season and, if Cookie has any say in it, one more cookie.
PWI: Buddy Lee’s Work in Progress
The Mouse has been following PWI’s messy trail for years. It starts in D5, where they won a championship, then leads through titles in D4 and D3. After they won D3, they disbanded or “Rebranded like Sierra Mist.” Now they’re back in D2 with their familiar name. That is a lot of ground covered for a team whose captain, Jamie McCabe, admits his main duty is paying the bill.
The roster has changed during that climb. Colorado Mike and Addison were part of the story along the way, while Steve and Touchdown Tori are still there from the original group. Now Jake Dunn, Quentin, Zach W, Miles, Nicest Girl in the League “Raena O'Neill”, and plenty more fill out a team Buddy keeps tinkering with. He adds a piece here, tries a piece there, and keeps chasing his vision of the ultimate D2 team.
There is one empty can on their record this year: Bullet Club. This cheese loving reporter (and anyone with access to Youtube) reviewed the play that did the most damage. Kelsey Harrigan threw the pass. Jordan Lawson went up for it. Quentin and Buddy were both there, and Jordan came down with the ball anyway. Around the league, the official description is that they got Moused… sorry.. mossed.
One loss has not stopped Buddy from working on the roster. Given PWI’s history, he may already be figuring out which piece to move next.
Select: From Carpet to Competition
Select started in 2018 in the dismal world of Miles Sports, where the turf was carpet and the organization was not Gouda. They eventually found their way to the TSL716, bouncing between D5, D4, and D3. After playing football on carpet, a little movement in the standings probably felt manageable.
Mark, longtime captain, also makes the TSL highlight videos. Everyone loves them except the refs, who keep discovering their calls have been preserved in high definition. Derek Pew is Select’s current quarterback, with Sin, Mark, Matt Tirado, and plenty more on the roster.
Their newest rival is TMA. Select didn’t offer a dramatic warning or promise to settle things on the field. They did, however, want everyone to know they’re a friendly team and always down to chat. The Mouse can confirm they’re much easier to interview than most cats.
Friendly or not, Select has been around long enough to know that rivalries make for good games and, if Mark has his camera ready, good highlights.
Q&A with the Refs
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- Category: The Lenny Alba Variety Hour
- Created: Thursday, 17 September 2026 14:39
- Published: Thursday, 17 September 2026 14:39
- Written by Jeff Krol
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This is the Lenny Alba Variety Hour, and as much as we’ve loved The Mouse the past couple of weeks (he’ll have more Player/Team Interviews coming soon!) we’re committed to doing some DIFFERENT things in this article week to week, just to keep it fresh.
This week we’re putting the spotlight on some of our most experienced Refs in the league to ask them about some of their experiences. Let’s see what Justin Garbacz, Brandon “B” Ford, Jordan Lawson and Garrett “Head of Officiating” Beesing have to say about reffing in the TSL!
How do you deal with the abuse of players always blaming you for "bad calls"?
Garbacz: I say things like, " We aren't reading about you in the USA Today Sunday Morning" or "This is what I saw....you may disagree but..."I try to create a rapport with the players that way they know me and makes it easier and they may not get as "heated".
B: When I make the call I stand by it. I don’t care if the players are blaming me. If I mess up I will always admit I was wrong.
Jordan: It's crazy to think, but I've actually NEVER made a bad call or even missed a call, so I cannot properly answer this question. If I am ever accused of making a bad call I will reach out so that the article can be updated appropriately.
Garrett: Generally, just laugh it off. I’ve had my moments where I complain to refs, so I get it. You should have that right as a player to question calls and let the ref know they messed up. Once it gets excessive, I’ll usually just start openly mock how they’re behaving, or throw a flag.
What's the best advice you could give to someone who was just starting to ref?
Garbacz: Be patient. Think before you blow the whistle. Don't let the game move too quickly for you. If the Back Judge, take about 12-15 yd down from the line of scrimmage and maneuver from there. Get to know your personnel. You will be in proper position because you will know what QB's go deep constantly etc. Always make eye contact with other official after the play to both know the downs.
B: Best advice I can give to new refs: If you make a call, stand by it. We are not professionals, we are people who play in the league or volunteer to help. We are not perfect.
Jordan: Simply to watch what I do and you'll never be wrong. The other advice would be simply to care. Pay attention to the game, respect the opportunity to be able to referee, and understand that you truly are in charge of helping the game go smoothly. There are, in my opinion, too many refs that just don't pay proper attention, are on their phones, or chatting with someone from another field.
Garrett: Don’t swallow your whistle. Too many refs, especially new ones, seem to think that NOT throwing the flag will keep the peace. Not throwing a flag will get just as much complaining as throwing a bad one.
What are the easiest or hardest teams to ref?
Garbacz: Easiest teams are D1 due to knowing the teams well and it basically "runs itself". The hardest are teams I do not know nor have a rapport with. The D1-D3 that I do ref, have a rapport with me so they know how to speak with me and vice versa.
B: Easiest team is any D6 team. They just want to have fun and play football. Hardest is Eyes Downtown. Bobby knows the rules and will question every call, every rusher count and wants things his way.
Jordan: Easiest team to ref is Balls Deep. They are extremely respectful, appreciative, and cognizant of the fact that I enjoy reffing and am out there to help better the league. I truly appreciate that they thank the referees for being out there. The hardest would be Eyes Downtown or Cobblestone. For ED if a game starts at 'X' time...your team and players should be ready to go. This is also meant to be funny as anyone reading this will understand, but Bobby shouldn't get an extra 10 mins to do his weird warmup stretches and high knees, but he always seems to push the limits on starting game time. (Love you Bobby!)...but sometimes refs will run those 10 minutes off the clock without you knowing, which also isn't fair to the other team. And Cobblestone, need I say more?
Garrett: Not gonna call out one particular team as the hardest to ref, but the same 8-10 players always act shitty. They expect perfect reffing, and are personally offended “children” [editors note: “children” was not the word Garrett used] when everything doesn’t go exactly their way. They never seem to realize when ref drama gets serious and out of hand, it’s the same 8-10 morons are ALWAYS at the center of it. It blows my mind the same 8-10 people don’t realize it’s ALWAYS them. And disappoints me that their captains and teammates don’t make them stop or kick them off the team. Very bizarre and sad. Favorite team to ref, NSS. They are always very respectful and as a team never get down on each other so the vibes always good
What's the best game you ever witnessed as a ref?
Garbacz: I feel a game that was D1 in the past year or two. Was back and forth 40-50s in score. Possibly Legends and Eyes Downtown or was Malones and somebody. Both teams kept matching one another. Honorable mention to Dwyers vs. Green and Associates in 2012
B: Best have I ever witnessed, that’s a tough one. Probably Sticky Bandits vs Legends a few years ago for the championship. It was a back-and-forth game. Refs weren’t even needed actually. Me or Garbacz never had to make a call.
Jordan: There are too many to name. Having reffed hundreds of games the ones that stick out are probably the championships as you never know what is going to happen. I love the games that come down to the last play, but dislike that the outcome literally could rest in my hands for a call that I do or do not make.
Garrett: Kind of drawing a blank here. I could have the details wrong but Mavericks winning a ship back-to-back years on the last play sticks out and I saw both plays. Don’t think I was reffing either though!
What's one rule change you'd like to see?
Garbacz: I would like to see a blitz added one per series for the defense. I feel it would make it exciting and the opposing qb wouldn't know when a "blitz" was coming.
B: The QB arm rule. When the arm is coming forward and the rusher touches him it’s not a sack. As a fellow QB I don’t mind the rule, but we are hurting the rushers. QBs see the rusher close and just start moving the arm forward. That has to change.
Jordan: I honestly don't think that there needs to be any rule changes. I did always find it odd that refs call 'gender' play for female involvement though. Isn't a male a gender too?
Garrett: $40 a game for refs. I love insulting people’s intelligence that disagree with me on this. It’s very enjoyable for me. I will die on the hill that it would make the product better by increasing demand, and allowing me to remove weaker refs from the schedule. The argument that $40 is too much, when it would be $10 extra a session per-person, is a joke. Also, “the complaining would get worse if I was paying $40, I’d expect way better reffing,” is only something an entitled child would say.
Who's the best ref in the League besides yourself and why?
Garbacz: Jeff May or B. Both have done it a long time. Both are good to work with due to both can work the back judge or line. Both communicate very well and that is key so both officials on the same page.
B: I’m going Jordan Lawson. He knows the rules in and out and he doesn’t let the players get to him. When he makes a call, he stands by it.
Jordan: Jordan Lawson with his eyes closed would be the best besides Jordan Lawson (the 10x runner-up in Best Ref of the Year voting) with his eyes open. But if I had to pick another, it would be Stoner Dave. Not because he is a teammate but because he truly cares and engages in every aspect of a game when he is reffing. He doesn't let emotion dictate his calls, doesn't hold grudges against players, and is fair, honest, and always provides a respectful explanation of what he did or didn’t see. I would also love to see Sal start reffing again because he is right up there at the top of the list of best referees.
Garrett: Jeff May and Jordan Lawson


